Rebroadcast from Franceinfo 29/12/2025

ISIS was territorially defeated in 2017 — but the threat didn’t disappear. In this interview, we unpack how jihadist networks adapt (Syria, Iraq, Sahel), why “deterritorialized” terrorism is harder to contain, and what the situation in Rojava/SDF-controlled areas means for regional security.

Chapters

0:00 Who’s speaking + context

0:14 U.S. strikes in Nigeria: what was targeted, what’s the real threat?

0:28 Why the “heart” of the threat remains Syria & Iraq

0:41 2017 “victory” vs today’s reality: from territory to networks

1:26 “Deterritorialized” terrorism: diffuse, mobile, global

2:21 Sahel security vacuums + politics of counterterrorism narratives

3:20 Syria: attacks, desert networks, and infiltration risks

4:55 Veteran/foreign fighter cells and fragmentation on the ground

5:15 New Syrian authorities: break with jihadism vs militant base dynamics

6:46 Can ISIS rebuild territory? Numbers on fighters + detainee challenge (SDF/Rojava)

7:28 ISIS vs al-Qaeda: rivalry, shared ideology, shared targets

8:20 Rojava: governance limits, infiltration, and why it complicates stabilization

9:00 Wrap-up